Keepin It Rio Podcast: Pridemore

Tonight we’re hanging out with Matt Pridemore, better known simply as PRIDEMORE — an independent hip-hop artist with a blue-collar background, a unique road into the music business, and no shortage of things to talk about.

We’re talking music, life, the grind, and whatever completely ridiculous direction the conversation takes us.

No script. No boring interviews. Just a great conversation.

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SPEAKER_01 0:02

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back with another amazing episode of your favorite podcast, the one and only keeping it real. And this is the 263rd rendition of our show. And today is going to be an awesome episode. I can already feel it. This is going to be a cool one because this is another one of the episodes where I kind of reached out on Facebook and I got some people to be guests on the show that I've never met before. Um, we literally just met like two minutes ago, and it's pretty awesome. So this is gonna be cool. We're gonna learn something together today, and I'm sure it's gonna be amazing. So, no hesitation at all, folks. Let me welcome our guest, Matt Pride Moore, to the show. Welcome to Matt. Hey, what's up?

SPEAKER_00 0:43

Thank you for having me, man. Good. How are you? Thank you for having me, man. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 0:47

Oh, it's my pleasure. It's been a little bit of a struggle for us to actually get on the same screen at the same time here for the last couple of days. So I appreciate your patience with us on that. And this is going to be an amazing episode. I'm I'm very excited to hear your story, learn a little bit more about you and some of the stuff you're doing. So let's just kick it off, my friend. Why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself and then we'll just kind of take it from there and see what happens.

SPEAKER_00 1:13

Yeah, man. Uh so yeah, like I said, he said, My name is Matt Pride More. My my my rap name is just Pride More, just my last name. Um, you know, just just an ironworker tradesman doing my thing. And then uh about a year ago, I got into the music game, slipped in with a couple friends, and I mean backtrack a little bit. I've always been kind of freestyling and you know, kind of entertaining the crowds and stuff at when at get togethers and such. But about a year ago, I decided to make take it serious and start making music. Um, and with with with that music game, it came to, you know, where do I want to go with it? What do I want to do? And my main thing was to to tell a story, you know, because life isn't easy. As as most people know, life isn't easy. So I just started telling a story in my raps and just trying to be as real as I can and and give people, you know, at the end of the day, I'm just trying to put a smile on people's faces and maybe give them a little inspiration to you know get out of the rut that they're in, you know, whatever the problems that they come across, you know, maybe maybe somehow give them a solution through my lyrics.

SPEAKER_01 2:20

There you go, and that's all we're trying to do, folks, is trying to be helpful, trying to give somebody something to relate to. Maybe somebody's going through something in life right now that this gentleman's been through, and he's explaining how he got out of it, and this is something that can help. So I love that. And I like the fact that you've been, you know, kind of in music a little bit, you know, indirectly your whole life. We all have. I was just singing some uh Jimmy Buffett in the car like 20 minutes ago on my way back here. That sounded pretty good, but yeah, yeah, I like what you just said about how you know it just recently became something that's kind of fallen in as far as something that you're really gonna dig into and and try to make a future out of. So tell me a little bit about how that happens. Obviously, you know, you you're you know, you're a grown man, so tell me a little bit about the story there and how you were uh you know brought in and how you came to the realization, man, I've got the ability, I got the skills, I like to tell stories. Maybe this is for me.

SPEAKER_00 3:20

Yeah, so a couple years ago, I was at because some of I'm I'm really, really into reggae, man. That's like my main, you know. If I'm not listening to hip hop, it's reggae. And I was at a reggae festival that an old friend threw on, reggae riverfest here in Colorado. And uh the one of the bands that was up, Ghostwave. Shout out Ghostwave. If you don't know Ghostwave, definitely check them out. Um they they were doing a fam jam and they invited people to come up. And you know, I was just um I was tapping into my inner chi, you know, and it was you know, my my past and everything. I was like, you know what? Screw it. I'm gonna I'm gonna go up there and I'm either gonna make a fool of myself or I'm gonna, you know, put on a show. And I went up there and I just dropped a quick freestyle, you know, portraying the story of what was going on the night before, making myself a fool, and the crowd went absolutely bonkers. So I had another friend who was there as well, Lion Lab. Shout out Lion Lab out of Fort Collins, definitely check him out too. Um, he hit me up and he's like, Hey, you know, it seems that you kind of have a passion for this for the rap game, you know, and I I make rap, I make beats, I make songs, like, let's get you on a song, we'll see how it goes. And, you know, sure as shit, he put me on a song. And the first song he put me on, I collabed with three legends from the UK, Pat Nuggs, Lottie, and West Hacks. And, you know, after that, they they were messaging me, giving me kudos, telling me, you know, just just basically boosting my ego, you know. It's like, fuck, maybe I maybe I should uh maybe I should see what I can do with this. And if it's not, if it's not making money and it's not, you know, making it into the industry and you know, living that kind of dream, at least I'm gonna make some memories, press a vinyl out of it, make a couple CDs, and then in the future, you know, people will be like, oh yeah, this dude made music for a little bit of his life, and that's it. I've done a lot of stages of life, I've done falconry, I've done all kinds of stuff to where you know I can look back, I've lived in Australia, did hunting and all that stuff. So trying to form a legacy with of my name, essentially. You know what I mean? It's just kind of been a goal of mine, and music has always been a big passion. So once I started doing it and getting good feedback, it was like, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep pushing with this, you know.

SPEAKER_01 5:44

Man, I love that story. That right there is absolutely original. I never have heard anybody say I got into it because basically I was at a festival and they asked if someone wanted to come up and perform, and I just did it. So I gotta know, okay, you're in Denver or Colorado, it's a reggae festival. Tell me a little bit about your mindset when this happened. Were you just like, yeah, let's go? Had it been a festive day to that point? Is that some of the some of the help that maybe gave you the confidence to get up on stage, or were you just like, you know what? I'm just gonna do this no matter what.

SPEAKER_00 6:17

Yeah, I mean, if I could be real, it was a reggae festival. So we could, you know, aside from the weed, there was a little bit of extracurricular that kind of probably boosted my ego, you know what I mean? But um, it was it was just one of those, yeah. I I mean, I don't know, man. It was one of those moments where it was it just hit me. It was like, I'm gonna go up there because I mean, backtrack, I made an asshole myself the night before, man. I was, you know, I was on some shit and just going crazy. And so I went up on stage and I told the story, told this exact story of what I did, apologized in my freestyle, and when I did it, you know, everybody went nuts because everybody witnessed what happened, you know, they all saw it, and then here I came just making a whole story about it and then apologizing in the same breath. So it's I don't know, it's it was it was groundbreaking, man. It was cool.

SPEAKER_01 7:07

That's a damn that's a damn good way to start your career, I'll tell you that. And like I say, nobody else has that story, so props to you for that. That's badass. And I love how you get up there, you know, without any real care. And it's like, all right, I'm either gonna look completely stupid or I'm gonna look pretty good. And you opted to look pretty good that day in the eyes of the crowd. So you start getting a little adulation up there on stage, people start cheering, you start kind of looking around and seeing that they're excited about it. That's the moment I'm assuming when you were like, Yeah, this is this is pretty cool. I could see myself doing this more. So you you get down off of that and you're thinking to yourself, All right, man, that was pretty badass. Not gonna lie. I had a fun time up there, the people were liking it. Maybe this is something I could get into a little bit more. So let's talk a little bit about that that process, that decision, the the mind frame that you had there. Obviously, like you said, you've got a full-time job, got to pay the bills, gotta put food on the table. Life as an independent musician is not uh it's not the easiest thing, from what I understand. I've had a couple artists on here, and they've all basically told me, you know, the chicken ramen noodles are the best ones because that's basically.

SPEAKER_00 8:20

Yep, creamy chicken.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

And I love the creamy chicken, it's so good. That's the light yellow. That's that's a Rupert I know all about those. So you get into it and it's like, all right, this is something where you know, obviously you've got a passion, obviously you want to pursue it, but at the same time, you're kind of like, eh, you know what? If it doesn't work, it's a chapter in my book. It's something that when I look back, you know, a hundred years from now, I'm gonna say, damn, I did that. That's pretty cool. So let's talk a little bit about the process. You get in there, you get a little bit of recognition. You're still just a regular guy, though, at this point that now has a dream. So tell me a little bit about how you make this dream a reality. What kind of people do you look for? What kind of things do you, you know, find yourself getting into in order to get discovered a little bit more or just to get those opportunities presented to you?

SPEAKER_00 9:11

Yeah. Um, well, so like the first couple songs I did, I got beats from uh Ill-Informed out in the UK. Shout out Ill Informed. Um, and he's got he's got quite the following, man. He's a big producer in the UK. So my first couple songs that I had that I was able to attach his name to really, really boosted my numbers. I mean, far beyond anything that I've done outside of Ill-Informed, you know what I mean? Um, but yeah, I mean, the like I said, the main focus is just the numbers, the numbers can really fuck with somebody's head. You know, when you when you release a song and you look on Spotify and you see, you know, first day, only a hundred people listen to my song, you know, it it is a little bit grueling to the brain, but at the same time, I'm not making a badge from it. I'm having fun. I'm just collecting my, you know, just collecting my thoughts and a record for the people to hear. And as far as like getting my numbers heard, man, it it's the promotion part of it is so hard for me because, like you said, the full-time job, I don't have time to come home and make TikToks and and YouTube and you know, do all that nonsense. Well, not nonsense, but that marketing side of things. I don't, I got a family, I got kids to take care of. You know what I'm saying? I just don't have time to really dig into the marketing side of it. So, you know, Dom Holland, shout out Dom. He's he's really helped me with with what I can do as far as what I can afford. And just get my name out there as much as I can. I mean, I can't I can't really push it and push it and push it like I would like to, but I you know, I feel like the tortoise in the hair, bro. I'm the tortoise right now, I'm taking my time, I'm I'm running at my own pace and just just doing my thing as I can, you know.

SPEAKER_01 10:58

Absolutely. And I don't know if you're familiar with the story, but the tortoise ended up winning the race. So I think that's the move, and that's the way it's just took him a while. It just took him a while, took him a while, he learned along the way, and and you know, that's just part of life. So I love what you just said there. You're you're getting in, you've got some pretty good recognition, and things are starting to look pretty good. But again, you've got a full-time job, you've got a family, you've got everything else on the table. Don't really have a lot of time to invest in this. So this is the next thing I always love to ask authors, creators of any sort with the family. This is kind of a new thing. You've been doing it for you know a year or so. Full support of your family across the board on everything. I know this is probably something that takes a little bit of your time away from them when you, you know, you get home from work and it's like, well, I gotta go put something together for a little bit. Tell me a little bit about the dynamic that your family has given there and the support that they've given you. Have you had any kind of pushback of any sort with that?

SPEAKER_00 12:00

Well, actually, it's been incredible, man. My girl Ashley, she she's actually on one of my tracks, back to the peaks. It tells a story about us moving to North Carolina, getting betrayed by a snake in the grass. And you know, she's she's my biggest fan. Um, and then her kids, my my step kids essentially they came out, you know, the other day and said, Hey, I saw, because he's got YouTube, he goes, Hey, I got a notification for your release today. I showed all my friends, I love it. You know, they they they're very supportive and they love my my two-year-old. If the first three notes of one of my songs starts playing, she's just right, oh that's daddy, that's daddy, you know, she's just excited this all to hear it. They all dance, they love it. So it's it's heartwarming, man. It's really cool to have the support that I need to do what I'm doing, you know, and be able to do it without any, you know, close judgment, close resentment, you know, someone trying to stop me from doing what I'm doing. The only thing that's gonna stop me from doing it is if I can't financially support my family and keep doing it. But as long as the family got has my back, then you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna keep pushing, man, trucking like a Peterbilt.

SPEAKER_01 13:09

Hell yeah. And you know what? I'll tell you a secret. You get a couple gold records on the wall behind you there, you're not gonna have to worry about paying the bill. So that's something that we're just gonna put out into the world right now. You're gonna have a couple gold records on the wall here in a year or two. We'll look back and I'm like, man, remember that dude when he was on keeping it Rio? That's awesome. So that is that is so cool. I love the dynamic, I love that you're doing it for passion. And if it doesn't go 100% your way, it's gonna be all right. Because I know a lot of people get fully invested and they're a hundred percent. It's like I quit my job, I live in my car, you know, like I'm selling records out of the back of my trunk and and this and that. And to me, I mean, I don't know. I own a roofing business. Trust me, if it doesn't rain over here, it's kind of stressful for me because people need roofs, but they don't know they need them. Kind of the same thing going with what you've got, you know. People maybe don't know exactly what you've got, they don't know quite yet what they what they need. So I want to ask you about the distribution of your your singles that you've had so far, how you get them out to the people. Obviously, we live in an era where you've got, you know, Spotify, YouTube, all that stuff. But as far as like physical inventory, like you said, you know, pressing some vinyl, getting out to the people. What kind of process is that for you? How does that how does that look on your end as far as you know the marketing that you are able to do for your music?

SPEAKER_00 14:33

So the physical, the physical part of it, I really haven't even dabbled into, man. I just kind of so I got uh so I started in January of last year, man. Last year I put out 11 songs, well, like 14 with my collabs and stuff that I did with other artists. Um, and then since then, still I've got I've been putting out more. And my first album, I'm hopefully gonna be ready for here at the at the latter part of this year. So once I actually get that first album out, you know what I mean? That's when I'm probably gonna start trying to push some more physical copies. Um, I got a couple shows coming up in August. So maybe get a couple singles on some on some discs and everything to do. But like the physical aspect, man, I haven't really jumped into that to be honest with you. I'm still so new in the game, you know what I mean? I'm I'm strictly put it on distro and let them do all the work for me.

SPEAKER_01 15:28

I love that. And why not? You know, simplify things. That's what I tell people. Simplify it as much as you can, get rid of all the crap work that you don't want to do, find someone that's good at it and say, here, do it. And that's a surefire way to get uh you know a lot of stuff done that you may not have gotten done otherwise. So I definitely appreciate and respect that. I love the fact that you're taking your time with it and it's like, okay, putting out some quality stuff, making sure that that everything is gonna be first class and you're not just throwing it out there to you know, basically get on whatever platform it is and start making a bunch of money. That's gonna come after the fact, and the quality is what starts. So let's talk a bit about how you actually produce your tracks. I've had a couple artists on here recently, and everybody seems to have a completely different way. One dude was doing it from uh a nightstand on the side of his bed with an iPhone, another dude had a complete studio set up. So let's talk a little bit about Pride Moore and how you handle that side of the business. How do you uh how do you go from an idea in your head to something that's solid that becomes an actual tangible product that you can put out to the world to be inspired by?

SPEAKER_00 16:39

Yeah, so I got, I mean, I've been from the moment this all started, I kind of I guess looking back when you put it like that, I guess I kind of got spoiled because my boy Lion Lab out here in Fort Collins, he got me in his. So I guess I mean it wasn't essentially a studio, man. It was a it was a microphone in a in an extra bedroom with a computer and you know, some some some echo resistance. And then um through all this music adventure, I met Inside the Mine. Shout out Inside the Mine out here in Port Collins uh reggae band based out of Loveland. He uh he invited me to be in one of his music videos for one of his songs. And at that music video, I met uh a fellow by the name of Cale Farnum at the Lyric Lab. Shout out Lyric Lab. If you don't know Lyric Lab, look them up. Badass producer, good prices, he'll take care of you. But I got I met up with him and um yeah, I got lucky, man. He invited me over to his spot, and he's got he's got a professional studio, like you know, top-notch mics, everything you need. And so I got lucky. I'd I'd go over there and I would I would do my 10, 15, 20 minutes of of vocals, and then boom, within a day and a half, he'd have me a rough draft, and you know, we'd start brainstorming, and next thing you know, the track is born within two weeks. So I got lucky. I didn't have to, I do have my own mic. I run Ableton. Um, but I just bought a house, so I haven't really set up the studio and everything, but so for now I just kind of lean on the resources I have, right? So I got I got I got I got some really good homies that do that do music. So I got lucky in that in that game.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

Yeah, I love it. That's good. I mean, like you say, cut out any of this the sitting on the corner of your bed with an iPhone crap as much as you possibly can, you know. That's that's a terrific way to uh go about doing it. So I love the entire process, everything that you got going on. I want to ask this as far as lyrics, as far as what comes out of your mind and ends up on paper, which ultimately ends up over the airwaves. Tell me a little bit about your thought process. Where does this stuff come from? I've had guys that were driving FedEx trucks and they were, you know, basically rapping all day to themselves about whatever they were dealing with. You're an iron worker, so you probably got all kinds of shit on your mind, and you got nothing but time. So tell me a little bit about how your your thought process goes from a basic concept into let's roll with this, and then you start writing the lyrics accordingly. How does that work?

SPEAKER_00 19:23

Yeah, so I mean, as far as FedEx rappers, I gotta give a shout out to Casper Clark.

SPEAKER_01 19:27

Uh who it was, yeah. Yeah, Casper Clark.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

He's a good dude's my homie, dude. I got I got multiple songs with Casper. We got some unreleased too. So shout out Casper, he's a good dude. Um, yeah, man. The lyrics just to be honest, personal experience, um, trauma, you know. Um, I don't know, man. Like one of my biggest hits, right? Or one of my biggest most played songs right now is not really friends, and that's that's essentially about hanging out with people for a long time, you know, taking care of them, doing everything. But you know, when the party ends, are they really your friends? Um, because I'm sure everybody can relate to that. That you know, who you think is your friend doesn't really end up being your friend in the long run. It all comes to an end. Um, and then the the the growing up, the art of growing up, the struggle of growing up. I just it all just I just put it into I don't know, poetry, I guess you could call it, and turn it into rap. I I feel like it can relate to a lot of people because I know for a fact I'm not the first person to ever go through the struggles that I'm going through or that I've been through, but at least maybe my lyrics can, you know, maybe dabble into the feelings of those who have.

SPEAKER_01 20:42

I like it. And you know what? That's that leads me right into the next question I had. I've I've gotten all these people on here, and the number one thing I love to ask people, and it gets the best response. Obviously, your story is pretty unique, you know. Like you say, you just kind of one day decided on a whim, like I'm about to become an entertainer. Let's see if it works. Boom, it worked. You became an entertainer. You've got the process down, you've made some, you know, huge strides in a short period of time. Now, there's two parts to this question. I'll ask you the first one, which is kind of the bad, and then we'll go with the good afterwards. So during this entire process, I know that there's you know, all kinds of stuff going on in life. Like you said, you've got plenty of things going on. This is this is something that's in addition to an entire life. Have you had any moments where you just thought, you know what, screw this. I don't want to do this, it's not really worth it. Have you come close to giving up at all yet?

SPEAKER_00 21:40

Yeah, of course, man. I when you know, like I said, it but but that goes back to what I said before the numbers. The numbers will kill a man's head. When I when I came to the realization that I honestly at this point I'm doing it to entertain my friends, get good feedback from those who I the those I know and you know if some good feedback comes from the outside world then cool but I've had a lot you know I've had some negative reviews I've for every 10 good review I have that one person who just tries to bring me down but at the end of the day I'm doing it for me and mine so you know have I wanted to give up yeah yeah absolutely when the numbers when the numbers aren't hitting you know yeah I think about giving up but what I'm past the numbers now it's just it's just for fun man and it it if if I can make some Sprill from it and and move on that'd be great that'd be cool and if I can touch some souls and you know change some lives that'd be great too but as of now just have fun you know just have fun with it.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

What a great perspective I mean you're never gonna get too stressed out as long as you just maintain that level level playing field and just say and you know whatever happens it's what's gonna happen. So I love that. And you just you nailed my next question perfectly because the opposite of that is okay people that are down they're they're at the point where it's like man this isn't worth it it's taking too much time it's too expensive. I don't spend time with the family everything sucks now and then they get this one random person that comes from out of nowhere and like you just said you're doing it the majority for your friends your family the people around you but if you're gonna become a worldwide phenomenon eventually other people are going to hear your music and give you that feedback I love that you said for every 10 positive you get one negative because usually that's a pretty damn good ratio normally it's like half and half you come to find out that most of the people in the world are they're just haters they're not going to do anything with their life so they're just gonna try to piss on you. And that's cool.

SPEAKER_00 23:46

The the world needs people like that too because it motivates us somewhat and it also shows us you know we're doing all right in life and who we are but with that the positivity there's always that first story that first person that you don't know that you've never seen before that you have no clue who they are somehow they stumbled upon one of your tunes and they're like you know what I'm gonna reach out to this guy and I'm gonna let him know how this impacted me personally have you had anybody I know it's been kind of a short ride so far but have you had anybody thus far that's reached out to you and said man we've never met before but I feel like you're speaking directly to me yeah yeah at one of the shows I was performing at I was I was um I was going along and you know it was one of my first performances so I was kind of focusing on staring off into the distance and not letting the people you know distract me but I couldn't help it because I looked down and there was someone I've never seen before rapping every single lyric and it was like after the show I walked up and I was like hey you know do I know you and they're like no no but I love your music blah blah blah it was just it was really captivating I could I couldn't believe it I'm just like I've never met a person a lot in my life and somehow they knew every lyric of every song I rapped it was nuts that's tremendous and there's probably for that one there's probably at least a hundred others that you'll maybe never see or thousands more that you'll never meet and I think it's awesome when you have that moment and it's just like damn this dude over here like is really into this and he really knows my shit and that makes you even more prideful and well your name's Pride more so of course you got you got the pride down and you start to see that and obviously that's good motivation it gets you pumped up and you know all those thoughts about giving up like 10 you know five minutes ago they're gone now because all of a sudden man I got fans now I got people that like know my stuff they're coming to my shows and doing all that and that's a that is a tremendous story right there.

SPEAKER_01 25:50

I I gotta ask this today is June 20th and on our call sheet thing that we have for the podcast it said something was going to be happening today on June 20th on there. And I wanted to ask you a little bit about this I don't know if today ended up being the day or not but you had a release coming out so I want to ask a little bit about your upcoming release and uh you know what's going on there. Uh yeah so I had a new song drop uh at midnight called Sick of It it's a uh it's a song pretty much like another one that I feel like everyone can relate to man it talks about the current problems the government um you know our kids not being able to play outside at night just uh random a bunch of random issues and I got citizen nugs from the UK shout out citizen nugs definitely check him out and then Seth Squatch from here in law in uh Colorado on it but yeah it's it's a very real real powerful song one of my one of my proudest proudest songs I think that I've ever put out man it's but it yeah it it talks about the political structure and just how it's the world's not okay right now and we all need to look within yeah no kidding man that's uh that's one that I'm definitely gonna check out uh as soon as our episode is finished here today I do want to ask for anybody that's watching the show that wants to get some of your music wants to learn a little bit more about you as an artist what are some of the ways that people can find you what are some of the ways that they can actually uh participate in your music career by you know throwing a couple bucks at you and saying man this this song was well worth that uh yeah so I mean you can find me on Spotify Pride More um uh Instagram Pride More underscore official and then as far as throwing me money you know what I mean I haven't other than distro kids saying that they can charge me on Apple I haven't really even set up fan cap or anything like that.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

I mean maybe I should but like I said it's I'm not at that point of you know I've spent a little bit doing it but it it I used to be into a lot worse things that I spent more money on if you feel me so I'm to a point now where it's like if I throw you know 50 to 100 bucks at a song every now and then I don't really I'm not looking if Distro Kid pays me you know that.00333 cents per stream that I get but I haven't really looked into like really making money from it yet I'd bet I eventually maybe we'll start a band camp and people can donate and stuff like that. But as far as for now just check me out. I'm on every streaming platform the name Pride more P R I D E M O R E um yeah just enjoy the music and and and ride the wave with me for a little bit there you go and you don't have to pay for that folks so there's no excuse not to man let's get this guy as many uh downloads or or views or whatever as we possibly can because he's not even doing it for the money.

SPEAKER_01 29:00

This is straight passion and I respect that a lot but it does kind of bring me to my next set of questions as well obviously with passion over the course of time it starts to get to be you know like this is my 260th podcast I'm five years into it and I didn't even know I was going to do a second episode honestly it starts to become time consuming it starts to kind of get you you know to where you've got a lot of stuff going on all of a sudden and with you in the music I love your mindset right now but at some point you're gonna have to sit down and look at that and say all right do I have a legitimate opportunity here and am I going to you know take that and and try to run with it as best I can so the question I have is you know five years from now what does your life look like in your perfect scenario as it pertains to life in general your music your everyday stuff does it kind of look the same have you decided five years from now that you're gonna be the next big thing and you know we're seeing your name all over everywhere because you are the next big thing or is it just going to kind of stay as a passion project and just something that you know you just do because you love yeah so I guess in the five years from five years from now I'm hoping that I've made five years worth of mortgage payments on time.

SPEAKER_00 30:19

I got some I got some asparagus that I planted in the back and it's gonna take about five years. So I'm hoping that prospers here oh yeah uh my two-year-old daughter I'm hoping that she makes it to seven gets through school and does everything she needs to do and as far as the music goes man if it takes off it takes off bro I'm not I don't every time that I've tried to hold my breath for something or you know more or less not not wishful thinking but yeah wishful thinking it always leads to disappointment. So if if I keep doing it and I make good money and it blows up and I do bigger than I'm doing now then that'd be awesome. But at the same time I've got I'm 39 years old I've gone 37 and a half years without making music so if it doesn't pan out I can go another 37 and a half and I'll probably be okay you know but hopefully hopefully at one point it does gain traction that'd be cool to get a little extra coin that would be sick to stop having to drive from job to job and and work as a tradesman but at the same time I'm I'm prepared for that more than you know the money bag for music because the money bag for music as everybody knows who everybody's who's who's listening to this is a very difficult difficult difficult game and a lot of people have to sell their soul for it and I'm not that type of person to sell my soul so if it comes organically and I can make it cool but I'm not pushing it I like that mindset man.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

I'll tell you what this is extremely refreshing because most people that you talk to they are so heavily in that it's just like I don't have a plan B. If if this doesn't work I'm completely screwed and like you know I mortgaged my house off uh uh you know to to finance my first album and it's like man that's a bad idea because it doesn't always work out so I'm happy to hear that you've got your head on straight at least and that you're not you know going out there thinking man this is going to be the greatest thing ever and then end up you know five years down the road thinking oh shit that didn't work so yeah severe depression disappointment I'm not I'm not about that I'm not about you know what I mean yep and and life's too short you know we spend all these years trying to do what we think other people want us to do then when we finally start to follow our own dreams and everything is when you really become happy in life and I can tell that you're not living a very stressed life and that is coming through the camera very clearly you know like this dude's having fun he likes what he's doing he's enjoying himself he's still keeping his life you know pretty balanced and uh that's the key to happiness. So good for you man this may not be uh about music at all this could be just about the mindset that you need to have in life and just not letting things bother you like you say the numbers yeah I let the numbers bug me forever on this podcast when you talk to sponsors and things like that that's the first question they asked well what kind of numbers can you get how many people yeah I don't even know I don't even have a clue if y'all can figure it out for me let me know I just tell people I'm coming to take Joe Rogan out and at some point if I'm gonna get to number one then there's gonna be a bunch of people that know who I am so that's worked out all right thus far and uh Joe's right down the street from me in Austin. I think he really footsteps every single day every episode I do I'm like all right Joe we're coming but I mean this isn't my main thing and I love doing it and I do probably two three four podcasts a week and we've got another one that I do where we're actually on a radio in Atlanta. We've got a TV show that we do as part of that as well which is really cool but I never set out for that I just was like this podcast started off as me and three buddies just bullshitting with each other talking about what happened that week for our roofing business and it just kind of evolved into something completely different. But the the whole thought behind it was always the same thing. If it doesn't work I don't really care I enjoy doing it I get to talk to people from all over the world I get to talk to people about their stories and I get to hear some of the most amazing things that people have accomplished you know and if nobody watches this I could care less because our conversation is going to help me. And I know that people watch it because I do have sponsors and I have people that reach out all the time and say man I like the podcast so it's cool to have that mentality and just know if this thing all ended tomorrow I'd be fine I still have my roofing company I still would wake up and and go do things but it is kind of fun to have that and it's kind of fun to build it and watch that following kind of develop and absolutely yeah really get to see you know what what you're built or what you're made of on the inside as well so I love that. And um I guess we'll kind of start trying to wind down a little bit um you know like you say in the future if this works great if it doesn't that's gonna be fine you're prepared either way which is brilliant most people don't have a plan B myself included and it's like you know you get you get to have some fun you get to enjoy it but you're not gonna put yourself out there and say if it doesn't work I'm gonna kill myself or I'm gonna you know everything in in life that I worked so hard for is gone. And I think that's probably probably the coolest part about maybe starting a dream or a journey a little bit later on in life. Like you say in your late 30s it's different than if you're doing it in your teens. And it's different if you're in your 20s and your entire life was laid out you know based on what you were and now you're going to include this in so I think it's gonna be awesome. I want to um I want to ask you if you'd be willing to come back on the show sometime down the road because I want to kind of follow your career in music. I want to see how things go but I also want to kind of talk again down the road and say hey man did everything work out the way that you thought it would did you keep that that great mindset that great mentality about it was everybody still supportive and all that stuff so I'd love for that to happen somewhere down the road if you'd be willing to do it. Um before I bid adieu to our our fans today and I give a a big speech about our sponsors I would like to ask you any final thoughts any words of wisdom that you'd love to spit out there to the millions and millions of people when this show's going to be watched 20 years from now and we've already taken Joe Rogan down and you're already the number one hip hop artist in the United States people they they they were doing it good all the way back then so tell a little bit about uh words of wisdom for the folks watching if there's someone out there that's like man you know what I kind of want to do my dream but what if I fail what if it doesn't work out people that just have you know nothing really going on at the moment and they just want some inspiration from a guy who basically said screw it if I look bad I look bad if I look good I look good but I don't really care that much so give that give the fans their uh their advice as far as that goes yeah so just like you said if I look bad I look bad if I look good I look good the main the main thing you got to do is if you want to do it then do it and don't do it to to please other people if you want to if you're an entertainer and you want to do it to please other people sure you know that comes down to to time because you're gonna have to gain traction but as far as like following following what you want to do and just commit commit do not worry about outside opinions because those outside opinions don't pay your bills do not worry about what other people have to say if it's negative that means they're probably negative they have nothing going on in life that's worth anything and they feel like they need to lash out on you.

SPEAKER_00 38:06

Do your thing stay positive smile spread the light be the light in someone else's life and keep pushing do you we're all in a struggle together we're all going through this struggle and so all you can do is do what you can do do it the best you can do and block out the haters because there's no matter where you go in life you're gonna come across haters there's no doubt about that folks and we all know about haters especially the people that are in the roofing industry there's a shit ton of haters in our deal so we understand completely what's going on there and I agree I think that if you can just focus on yourself you'll be much happier in life spent too many years giving a crap about everybody else and when you turn around and you need people you look around and realize you probably put more into it than they did.

SPEAKER_01 38:53

So that is awesome I want to end this with probably my favorite part of the entire podcast which is very simple. I want to tell you a little bit about my sponsor my sponsor is an amazing company called Roofer it's R O O F R roofer.com and Roofer is your all in one resource for your roofing company we literally can catch leads off of our ads off of our landing pages directly from our our roofer takes us all the way through the entire process it measures the roofs it puts together the material orders it puts together the orders for the crew it sends everything out makes sure everybody gets what they need puts the jobs together lets the homeowners and the building owners know when we're going to be there what we're gonna be doing after the fact it collects all of our payments and then reminds them later on that they need to call us for maintenance so you guys have been watching this show for hopefully everybody's been here since episode one I know I'm getting some new fans now and y'all need to go back to episode one and kind of catch up but roofer's awesome they've been my sponsor for four years you guys know I love them even if you're not a roofer just get roofer because it's fun to play with so that's pretty much it as far as that goes I definitely want to thank the the people that are loyal to keeping it real I got a new logo back here and actually this is going to be the second episode with the new the new look here. So pumped about that I appreciate everybody that watches every week I would still do it without you but it's way more fun with you guys. So much respect to that and Matt thank you for taking the time to be here my friend I'm looking forward to following you I'm gonna kick on my little uh turtle box speaker here in just a few minutes kick Spotify on and I'm gonna familiarize myself with your tune so appreciate you and I always end it with the most corny ass thing ever which is my tagline to end the podcast and y'all know that that is very simply keep on keeping it real and we'll see you guys next week stick around for just a second after I end this I'm gonna play a quick ad and then you and I will finish our conversation on the backside my friend thank you guys we'll see y'all next week I found Roofer online about seven years ago used it one time and it's been the only thing I've used ever since it's basically a program that makes your life a lot easier to measuring roofs putting together proposals things of that nature roofer fulfills every need that we have our homeowners are always impressed by the presentation they're able to kind of look at things differently and learn at their own pace. They sign the documentation online because it's the number one CRM in the industry. Everything that you can get with Roofer is going to help your business grow I think that y'all should do it for sure